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Nothing I can substantiate, just gut feelings and whispers.
Birdies are telling me:
Gut Feelings:
UPDATE
Almost Forgot….
This is also the Official “Religious Discussion Thread”.
If anyone wants to debate one religion versus the other…please post them here.
(Also I distinctly remember Patrick saying lots of good things about Bahai’s when he had the ACJ Forum…even going as far as saying it was his second favorite…of course this was before him and CB had the various “issues”)
2 On Feb 19, 02:43 am, jerry wrote:
Dear Patrick
I smiled tonight when I learned you are looking at the Baha’i writings.
Joining with The Chair of Study Hebrew University in Haifa Israel, BIC activity
in the United Nations, Muslim and Christian clergy, Ecumenical Councils
across the United States and around the world, all working to better understand
one another and realizing we all worship the same God, helps bring about a
peaceful co-existence, you are in good company.
Though your conclusions are early, with an open mind, your research will bring
you to deeper understandings of all peoples and many discoveries like one of
the primary principles of the Baha’i Faith is private investigation by the individual.
It’s an arduous task. It takes strength.
I wish you well.
Carrie’s mom
3 On Feb 19, 07:18 am, Pyhthian Knight wrote:
Religions based on mans interpretation of Gods divine inspirations. They do become muddled when mans ego takes over and power struggles abound, then there’s never enough love, to go around. As we near the end of this religious race, all that will be left is God and our inner faith. So let the task not be to arduous or strong, all that’s really needed is the will to find God. So sit quiet and peaceful, maybe even meditate. Ask what you need even pray for yourself. It may take a little time, and if the question are right, soon you will shine. If you still need a book that’s OK, my preference is the direct way. FCB
4 On Feb 19, 07:33 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Jerry, The Baha’i Faith, Christianity Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, LNG, Firearms, Communism, Marxism, Republicanism, many other “isms” are all concoctions and/or ideals created by man, all under some spirit of benevolence and righteousness in individual or collective thought or vision.
The good or bad of all comes from from whomever’s hands they are in that controls them.
You, along with your daughter have every right to follow your vision of a peaceful and healthful life as I do but, in the end, in my view, it’s just going to be you and your God at that moment of atonemnt and ascending as opposed to an institution ot mere mortals.
5 On Feb 19, 08:09 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Your memory’s a little cloudy on my position on religion Tryan.
Not even close.
7 On Feb 19, 08:33 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Sorry, Tryan it’s never been different than you read it this morning.
The Daily “A”?
Josh Marquis?
How so?
8 On Feb 19, 08:58 am, Pyhthian Knight wrote:
God loves Carrie and Patrick equally and would want everybody to do the same. Nobody said these tests He gives us would be easy. FCB
9 On Feb 19, 09:38 am, Tryan Hartill wrote:
Sorry Patrick…you are not correct here
Before you had nothing but good things to say about Bahai’s…and saying that if it wasn’t for your current religion you would consider them because they are very “reasonable”.
You used to have very few good things to say about Josh and openly disliked him. Now you are one of his biggest supporters.
You used to bash the Daily Astorian continually…now you treat every article as a sacred document.
10 On Feb 19, 10:57 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Tryan, I respectfully submit to you that you are wrong again.
I defy you to present specific reference to either of your claims.
Your STAFF’s ethics are obviously finding sway over you thinking.
I’ll stand by while you bring forth validation.
12 On Feb 19, 11:58 am, Pat" Robertson wrote:
God says, “If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves” the first thing to revival is to humble yourself. Now, you see, most people say, “I don’t need to repent. I’m OK.”
That’s what we hear in America. They don’t want to hear in this nation that there’s anything wrong with them.
Homosexuality, it’s OK. Abortion, it’s OK. Materialism, it’s OK. Lip service to religion, it’s OK. Divorce, it’s OK. Children being born out of wedlock and premarital sex, it’s OK. Pornography on the Internet, it’s OK.
Don’t tell us there’s something wrong with America. We’re going to sing ” God bless America” and God will bless us just because we’re such nice people and we’re nicer here than those guys over in the Middle East who are attacking us. Don’t believe that for one minute! That we’re OK before God. God says, “If you want my blessing, humble yourself.”
13 On Feb 19, 12:21 pm, Transformation wrote:
God didn’t set us up for an angry rejection but for salvation by our Master, Jesus Christ. He died for us, a death that triggered life.” (1 Thessalonians 5:9, NLT)
CBN.com – Not a single day went by that Fabian didn’t use heroin. He tried to hide the truth from his wife, but she had her suspicions. Fabian kept denying that he was an addict, until the day Alice found proof.
Fabian knew that he was about to lose his family. But he couldn’t seem to break the addiction – and time was running out.
That night Fabian turned on the TV, and found Solusi – CBN Indonesia’s version of The 700 Club. Fabian’s heart was moved as he watched the testimony of a man healed of his drug addiction. He believed that Jesus could free him too.
“And as the host prayed, I said this in my heart; ‘God, please give me a chance to be healed, I don’t know how this can happen, but I have faith in You,’” says Fabian
A week after that simple prayer, Fabian realized that he had not taken any drugs. He knew that he was free.
“I wondered that He healed me that fast,” says Fabian. “God answered my prayer! I am not an addict anymore!”
When he realized what had happened, he confessed to Alice and asked her to forgive him.
” We were holding hands together,” says Alice. “And we forgave each other, and we asked God to guide us because we wanted to follow His way”
“We are so happy today,” says Fabian. “We now understand each other, help each other, and advise each other.”
Solusi really helped us to show that God is a God of healing and restoration,” says Alice.
14 On Feb 19, 12:33 pm, Isaiah's Failed Prophecies wrote:
Ezekiel 29:17-20
...the Lord God came to me: “Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon made his army labour hard against Tyre; every head was made bald and every shoulder was rubbed bare; yet neither he nor his army got anything from Tyre to pay for the labour that he had performed against it…”
McDowell tried to twist history to show that Tyre has never been rebuilt. His argument is that the modern city of Tyre is not the old city of Tyre since the former was not on the exact location of the latter. Suffice to say that no one agrees with such a twisted method to fulfil prophecy. Furthermore the prophecy says that Tyre shall never be rebuilt after the destruction by Nebuchadnezzar-which never happened-since he never destroyed the city. Even after the destruction by Alexander the Great, the city was still rebuilt. In fact the city of Tyre was even referred to, by that name, in the New Testament (Mark 7:24, Acts 12:20). Tyre exists to this day and has a population of about 12,000.
Having failed in one prophecy did not make Ezekiel shy about making more:
Ezekiel 29:8-12This passage must take the cake for the most prophecies proven wrong!
Egypt has never been desolate and waste.
Men and people have always walked through it.
There has never been a single moment (let alone forty years) when Egypt was uninhabited.
Egypt has never been a desolated countries surrounded by more desolated countries.
Its cities has never been desolated for any period of time
and finally there was no Egyptian diaspora6.
15 On Feb 19, 12:56 pm, Uncle Walt wrote:
“You erased everything…remember?
I’m sure Walter will be by soon.
I say we settle this by what he remembers.”
Sorry, Tryan. It won’t be settled by me. I’m not some female who remembers everything someone said, so I can use it against them some point down the road. LOL! (Yes, you women know you do that.)
16 On Feb 19, 12:58 pm, Uncle Walt wrote:
“You erased everything…remember?
I’m sure Walter will be by soon.
I say we settle this by what he remembers.”
Sorry, Tryan. It won’t be settled by me. I’m not some female who remembers everything someone said, so I can use it against them some point down the road. LOL! (Yes, you women know you do that.)
I’m just saying I don’t remember.
17 On Feb 19, 01:01 pm, Charles Henderson wrote:
Forgive and move on pMore recently a similar fate swept away the empire of Soviet communism, freeing nation after nation in Eastern Europe.
In our own nation, another unjust and evil system, known as slavery, for nearly one hundred years inflicted black people with a sense of inferiority, deprived them of their personhood, and denied them their God given rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Slavery was the shame of America. But as on the world scale, so in our nation, the wind of change began to blow. One event followed another to bring an end to slavery and the system of segregation that was created in its aftermath. Once long ago people justified slavery by quoting the scriptures; today we know with certainty that discrimination and racism are wrong. The only question remaining is how long their pernicious effects will continue to cripple our democracy.
These great changes are not mere political and sociological shifts. They represent the passing of systems that were born in injustice, nurtured in inequality, and reared in exploitation. They represent the inevitable decay of any system based upon principles that are not in harmony with the moral laws of the universe. When in future generations people look back upon these turbulent, tension packed days, they will see God working through history for our salvation. They will see that God is able to conquer the evils of history.
God’s control is never usurped. If at times we despair because of the relatively slow progress being made in ending racial discrimination, let us gain new heart in the fact that God is able. In our sometimes difficult and often lonesome walk up freedom’s road, we do not walk alone. God walks with us. God has placed within the very structures of the universe certain absolute moral laws. We can neither defy nor break them. If we disobey them, they will break us. The forces of evil may temporarily conquer truth, but truth will ultimately conquer its conqueror. Our God is able. James Russell Lowell was right:
lease!
18 On Feb 19, 01:07 pm, Uncle Walt wrote:
As to what religion is “correct” ... perhaps none are. Or all are.
Would it be “hell” for a Christian to spend eternity in the (say) Muslim version of “heaven”?
And some believe that gods (and goddesses, can’t leave out the ladies) only exist as long as they have believers to draw strength from.
Nobody will know until they die, because it’s beyond science’s ability to prove or disprove the existance of the supernatural.
However, I know the supernatural exists from having first-hand experience with it. And that’s enough for me to have faith that there is something “beyond” our existance. What exactly it is, I couldn’t tell you – mostly because I believe it’s beyond our mortal ability to comprehend.
19 On Feb 19, 02:05 pm, Charles Henderson wrote:
CHAPTER 4
All the prophets worshipped the Father in the name of Christ—Abraham’s offering of Isaac was in similitude of God and his Only Begotten—Men should reconcile themselves to God through the atonement—The Jews shall reject the foundation stone. Between 544 and 421 B.C.
20 On Feb 19, 02:08 pm, Tryan Hartill wrote:
So what does all that mean to you “Charles”?
21 On Feb 19, 04:12 pm, pamela wrote:
Hey, I don’t know about this Charles guy, but just the other day I was thinking…..”where is LUKE RUMMELL ? ” I mean, isn’t he supposed to come back and run for city council or honorary mayor or something?
22 On Feb 19, 07:40 pm, Diciple wrote:
“Egypt has never been desolate and waste.”
Yet.
There is one truth – God is never wrong. Even if you think he is, he’s not. His world has no end. Are you in his world?
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1 On Feb 18, 10:34 pm, auntie wrote:
Wow, a comparative religion opportunity? I like being Catholic, they have cool art, awesome icons, great smelling incense, real wine and the BVM ! (no, not Bunny Von Munchausen)