2 On Feb 18, 01:13 am, PAH wrote:

Why was the letter rejected? Was it too long? I believe that The Daily Astorian has a maximum word count of 500 for LTE. This one clocks in at 583. What was Mr. Cunningham given as a reason for rejection of the letter? If there was a problem with the content, then it would be interesting to know what specifically. Could the letter be altered slightly and then published?

Thank you, Tryan, for providing a space where a variety of points of view are shared and debated. Reading Mr. Cunningham’s passionate letter helps me better understand him and others who believe as he does. Belief systems are powerful, sometimes making for rigid bias and intractable postures. It seems as though at least a couple of belief systems are colliding in this county these days. It’s going to take a lot of listening and understanding to overcome the vitriol and disdain used to condemn belief systems other than one’s own. Writing down our logic and reasoning and even gut feelings, without attacking individuals, seems to be the civilized approach (Not that I don’t like to get away from civilization from time to time…)

PAH

4 On Feb 18, 08:57 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

I listened to the same piece Mr. Cunningham listened to and no where in that conversation did Roger Rocka say what Mr. Cunningham said he said.

Tom Freel did not say Rocka was Wrong until after Rocka was off air and without benefit of a reply. Freel did say during the conversation the he did not agree with Rocka but Rocka has every right to do what he was doing.

To clarify this, I ask Tom Freel to replay the conversation to clarify what both of us are saying.

I know this is secondary lately on this site but, as a matter of fact Mr. Rocka was very polite but firm in asking Freel to remove that post made on KAST’s Blog.

The Daily “A”’s Letters to the Editor are usually 250 words, maximum and have always been so and if they have a piece they want to use they will inform you that you are over and ask if you want to edit it or allow them to do so to get into 250 or less.

They also do reject letters and it is to their discretion to do so

6 On Feb 18, 12:41 pm, PAH wrote:

I am asking all my friends, associates and Clatsop County voters to see this for what it is.
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I was mistaken; the usual limit is 250 words. But much more important is whether what Mr. Cunningham states as facts are true. I didn’t hear the show, so I was relying on the good faith of the writer and the due diligence of NCO. If Mr. McGee is correct, then shouldn’t NCO reject the letter as well? It’s not my place to say, but what the heck.

Many years ago, before the World Wide Web, in the days of DOS, a fellow in Portland operated a computer bulletin board (remember those?) where they celebrated free speech. Free, I guess, but it was also a repository for a huge collection of Holocaust Revisionist and neo-Nazi writings, along with literature such as the Anarchist Cookbook. I doubt that this type of material would make it past the NCO filter.

Tryan, I very much appreciate that you are open to many points of view. However, if it turns out to be true that this LTE maligns Mr. Rocka using misrepresentation of the facts (what was said on the show), would you then reconsider and remove the post? Just curious. Stuff like this will probably come up more frequently as your readership grows. You may already have some policies in place, so please pardon my nosiness..

Respectfully,

PAH

8 On Feb 18, 02:35 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Article comments are not posted immediately to the site. Each submission must be approved by an editor, who may edit content for appropriateness. There may be a delay of 24-48 hours for any submission.

Note: All information on this form is required. Your telephone number is for our use only, and will not be attached to your comment. If you do not wish your e-mail to be included, please note that in your comments.

Above is “The Daily “A”’s disclaimer on submittals to their online and LTE features and has been as long as I have been submitting, as I remember..

10 On Feb 18, 03:17 pm, Now his hatred is flaggerant wrote:

You are pathetic McGee.

What has Carrie’s religion got to do with any of these articles?

Why do we have to go through all of this SPAM to get to comments on the ARTICLE? McGee’s personal vendetta against Bartoldus can be carried out on his own blog, can’t it? Do we all have to wade through this to get to a relevant comment on an article? Pathetic, I don’t want to see this go into a debate about theology, which I am sure Baha’is reading this would feel obliged to reply to since the ones I know absolutely don’t believe in a world police state. Absolutely ridiculous! And I don’t look forward for this to spiral into a religious debate. Come on Hartill, every once and awhile pull out the moderator card.

12 On Feb 18, 04:22 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Referenced from Wikipedia

Political Unity

The Bahá’í writings proclaim a glorious future Golden Age in which the whole earth is united under a world federal government, which is to arise in two stages: the first is the “Lesser Peace,” a time when world leaders

”...establish a board of international arbitration; that from all nations and governments of the world there should be delegates selected for a congress of nations which should constitute a universal abitral court of justice to settle international disputes.”
`Abdul-Bahá, Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 203. [3]
Many Bahá’ís interpreted certain statements of `Abdul-Bahá to mean that the year 2000 would be the start of the Lesser Peace.

In the more distant future there will arise the “Most Great Peace,” a time when

“Warfare and strife will be uprooted, disagreement and dissension pass away and universal peace unite the nations and peoples of the world. All mankind will dwell together as one family, blend as the waves of one sea, shine as stars of one firmament, and appear as fruits of the same tree.”
`Abdul-Bahá, Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 145. [4]
Bahá’ís expect that while ethnic and cultural diversity will continue to exist, humanity’s first allegiance will be with the human race rather than any subsidiary group such as race, nation, or ethnic group. There will be an end not only to war, but even to inter-group rivalry.

14 On Feb 18, 05:23 pm, and the rest of the reporters? wrote:

Are you choosing one reporter’s religion to spam us with today McGee and you will research Gamm’s, Swains and Proffita’s religions to spam us with next? Or is the point of your madness that you wish to drive home that you find one particular person’s religion offensive to you or just one particular religion? And, who cares?

The box says, “This is not Spam” it is SPAM if it is not on topic. I fail to see a connection between the Iranian treatment of Baha’is and the Daily Astorian’s treatment of Cunningham. Or the Daily Astorian’s treatment of Lee. Are you trying to say the Daily Astorian is as oppressive as the Iranian government? Albeit Mcgee’s maligning of Baha’is is similar it wouldn’t be if he wasn’t allowed to post it. If this drivel continues you can count me out of continuing to come back to read. He has his own forum and blog and if he objects to Baha’is so much he certainly can post there or to one of their blogs or forums. There’s no need for this onslaught here.

16 On Feb 18, 05:44 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

You want to quote one specific of my referencing anything whatsoever negative about the Baha’i Faith on this discussion of a rejected letter to the Daily “A”?

I’ll stand by.

18 On Feb 18, 06:06 pm, 007 wrote:

We love you Patrick, yes we do. I just finished reading post 8. Guess what, it sounds saner and more reasonable than you. Now on the good side your doing a fine job of changing people’s opinion out here. So keep up the good work.

20 On Feb 18, 06:45 pm, THartill wrote:

I know where it came from and who posted them and there is little I can do about it except to just keep erasing them.

22 On Feb 18, 09:11 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

He is the worst of local opinionated asshats.
If it’s not here he is spewing his vile and trying to drag the place down, its everywhere else, including the damn radio. What is it with him, didn’t his mommy love him enough or something?
McGee, grow up and go play on your own so-called-blog.

O.K. lay it out there “NNWWTBM”.

Give me some specifics as to what you are referring to.

Vile? What does that mean and where and what specific incidences are you referring to?

Drag what place down?

Me? Take local Radio down? How so?

Do I, as you, not have a right to express my view on issues?

My blog? That’s my blog for me to put issues in front of whomever wants to read about them. That’s my outlet for me to present, when I feel like it, an opinion, I feel I need to get out. Do I care if one person visits that site? No, not at all.

Do you expect NCO, here to entertain only one viewpoint?

What would be the point?

Do you believe that the human animal can actually exist it that kind of environment?

And of course, you have no accountablility so I would expect nothing less from you than what you have already presented and so be it, your prerogative.

24 On Feb 18, 09:24 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

What’s The Old Saw W.O.T.:...”Freedom of the press is a wonderful thing, especially when you own the press”?

I find that to be pretty much an accurate statement.

26 On Feb 19, 12:11 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

#26 – Kirk Fraser, is that you?

28 On Feb 24, 12:43 pm, Ann Samuelson wrote:

Tryan,

I’d appreciate an article about how ridiculous a reason can be for a recall effort, at this point maybe a contest isin order! Currently I’m being recalled for allegations that occurred when I wasn’t in attendance. So the word interpretation has taken on a broader meaning to include “let’s make it up”!