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Research Data Design (RDD), of Portland Oregon (503-412-3352) is conducting a phone poll in the Clatsop County area. Questions they are asking:
Do you recognize the names of these people, and if you do what is your feeling about them?
Yes/No Positive/Negative
Ann Samuelson
Patricia Roberts
Jeff Hazen
Sam Patrick
Richard Lee
Gordon Smith
Ron Wyden
Ted Kulongoski
Are you aware of a recall effort against a commissioner in your county?
Are you for or against this recall effort?
What do you feel about the information you are getting regarding the recall effort?
What is your main source of information regarding the recall?
Is the commissioner being recalled in your district?
Do you think any other commissioners are in danger of being recalled or should be recalled?
Do you think someone in public office should be recalled for things they do in their private life or should the recall be directly related to what they are doing in their elected position?
After being asked all these questions one of the persons contacted by RDD said they asked them who they were, RDD replied, “A research firm.” When asked who they were hired by they replied they weren’t allowed to give out that information. The RDD interviewer addressed the person they were surveying by name and did say that they got their name and phone number from the person’s voter registration.
3 On Feb 16, 08:24 am, Jon Dana wrote:
The last three, don’t really remember those. He asked about if I’m in favor of development, I asked industrial or residential, he said any. Then he asked about people moving here, if that was a positive or negative. I’m pretty sure he didn’t ask me, if i knew I was in the district of the recall. But then again phone in one hand burrito in the other, 2 on my plate, so I wasn’t taking notes.
4 On Feb 16, 09:47 am, Jon Dana wrote:
Oh, he asked if new development should pay extra,(taxes?) to support added infrastructure.
5 On Feb 16, 11:39 am, RTV wrote:
Tryan, thanks for the heads up on this. You are doing people a tremendous service. Now, I wonder who would get to write the cost of this survey off as a business expense? (Everybody gets three guesses – first two don’t count)
Moving right along, did anyone else notice that the Daily A’s article about Richard Lee saying he is not guilty was not available on line unless you are a subscriber? All the negative articles have been available on line but, of course, this one wasn’t. One more way for the Daily A to control the information to people whose only sources of info are the internet.
Steve Forrester and his sidekick Patrick Webb are colossal jerks.
6 On Feb 16, 12:07 pm, THartill wrote:
Almost sounds like 2 different polls. I would think they would have to ask the same questions for it to do any good.
RTV
I get all the articles in my Google Reader….but you have to enter the articles through the URL in Google reader, not the Daily A Homepage…
Also interesting that the #3 article read yesterday was Andrea Kennett's LTE.....I wonder how many of those hits came through the post on NCO?7 On Feb 16, 02:11 pm, roadsend wrote:
Got the call last night with all the questions TH and JD mentioned. I BSed a bit with the caller who was physically located in Las Cruces, NM. He said that the supervisors don’t tell the callers who is paying for the survey. They asked me point blank how I intended to vote on the recall and I answered them point blank.
They got my name from the voter rolls and I live in District 3.
8 On Feb 16, 05:14 pm, Smith wrote:
Too bad they aren’t asking what we think of Josh Marquis. Hmmmm I wonder why that is? Maybe he doesn’t want to know.
9 On Feb 17, 11:11 am, PAH wrote:
What do you feel about the information you are getting regarding the recall effort?
What is your main source of information regarding the recall?
Do you think someone in public office should be recalled for things they do in their private life or should the recall be directly related to what they are doing in their elected position?
He asked about if I’m in favor of development
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So who do you think is behind this? It sounds like a “push” poll to me, as it appears to use leading questions. It would be useful to Richard Lee as he decides whether to resign or face recall. If he decides to defend himself, then the poll results could help focus a strategy. Selected answers might be released as part of his campaign. Northern Star’s PR people might be interested, as well. Would New Northwest Broadcasters be interested enough to create this? I seriously doubt it comes from The Daily Astorian or from the citizens seeking recall. If this is paid for by a political committee or provided as an in-kind donation, then the cost will have to be reported to the on-line campaign finance disclosure site. Any guesses?
10 On Feb 17, 12:25 pm, laughing wrote:
Not disagreeing with your analysis except on two points:
I seriously doubt it comes from The Daily Astorian or from the citizens seeking recall. If this is paid for by a political committee or provided as an in-kind donation, then the cost will have to be reported to the on-line campaign finance disclosure site.
Someone made an in kind contribution of printing out a minimum of the claimed 6,000 flyers that CRIODA sent out. I say “claimed” because as everyone knows that still leaves $1340 balance at Sunset Presort for postage of some unknown mailing going to an unknown quantity of people. 6,000 two page, double sided, fliers. 24,000 pages were produced by someone and no in kind contribution shows up on CRIODA’s state disclosure site. And these same people are the For Open Government people.
Why would the Daily Astorian want to know how many people are using their paper for their main source of information on the recall? Why would the Daily Astorian want to know how effective they are in getting their message out to people? Why would the Daily Astorian want to know if people are using NCO or the blogs to get their information on the recall? These recall people have said they were after each of the commissioners who voted against the stipend. I would think it would be a very useful thing for the Daily Astorian to know if their paper is effectively telling people what to think and for the recall people to know if they have enough momentum to recall the other commissioners, imho.
I got the phone call. My district has a re-election in May. But I still said yes, we should recall Patrick. He can do too much destruction if allowed to serve through December and he illegally discussed both the stipend with the DA before it was voted on by the whole board, he colluded to blame it all on the rest of the board and he discussed the MOU with the DA when the Board had an attorney to represent him. His letter to the Board and the DA’s letter were way too similar. Why didn’t any news outlet pick up on that? Why didn’t Goldsmith pick up on that?
11 On Feb 17, 04:49 pm, PAH wrote:
Hmm, well I guess that it could be The Daily A or even some part of the recall movement. I thought that the leading questions might have been spun a little different if either situation were the case. Hey, but you got the phone call, I didn’t.
I don’t know the timing for reporting campaign contributions and expenditures. Once a month? Every week? I hope that the reporting period gets shorter as we approach the election. I don’t begrudge anyone for commissioning a poll or printing fliers. Those are tools of politics. It is of interest who is paying. Is it just a small handful of cronies? Is there a diverse cross-section of relatively small contributors?
Now, if someone is hiding contributions or illegally laundering funds through another party, then we’re talking about criminal matters. Some types of collusion or violation of Oregon’ public meetings law could remove a politician from the sport. No recall is necessary if the state authorities pull a crooked politician. Recalls are generally about a constituency that believes that they are no longer represented appropriately, or because of shenanigans that can’t or haven’t been found to be against the law, but are sufficiently distasteful that voters cannot stomach the situation continuing.
12 On Feb 18, 03:56 pm, back on topic wrote:
Daily Astorian online poll right now is very similar to the question that the survey asks:
*Do you think Richard Lee’s actions in seeking special treatment for his businesses because of his position*...
Please select one:
And I do love how they ask the question, don’t you? Not “allegedly seeking special treatment” but posted as if he has already been convicted of this illegal behavior. The Daily Astorian biased? Nah…
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1 On Feb 16, 07:41 am, Jon Dana wrote:
I was asked different questions, maybe cause they aleady knew I’m in dist. 3