1 On Jan 30, 01:51 am, stiv phorhistor wrote:

For the sake of CCFog members and supporters, and their ability to bring future issues to the voters, the dirt better come fast and furious, otherwise they are looking at a 60-40 defeat at the ballot box.

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Why not start recalls on everyone in office right now and put out the “GOT DIRT” boxes? I mean, isn’t it ridiculous to wait for a crime to actually be committed? That would be, will, democratic. Its smarter, and lets face it, quicker and more lucrative, to set the climate first, prime people to go looking for dirt, and then tell people to dig it up and get it off their chests.

Employers should watch and see how well that works on Lee. If it turns out good they can put these boxes up in the work place so everyone can use them to get stuff off their chest about what they know the other people at work are doing. Who took home a ream of paper to their kid for a school project? Who broke the case of eggs on night shift and didn’t report it? You wanted to report it and now, the employer can make it completely anonymous so you can! GOT DIRT boxes can go up all over town. Report your neighbor, you know you want to! Report your ex, you KNOW you want to. Your cousin, the ass? Report him!

That way we can always be one step ahead of yanking the rug out from under anyone’s foot that dares try anything new, innovative, or just dares to make a decision at all and we’ll know the gossip and low down shit on everyone. We’ll be so busy sifting through the shit everyone turns in on each other nothing else will get done, and every person in public office will be so terrified of making a mistake they’ll quit taking any steps at all. Hot damn. This will be a great community to live in then.

Cartoons for the day

If You don’t speak up now, who will be left when they come for You?

3 On Jan 30, 06:49 pm, Mark Knopfler wrote:

not ignoring it, don’t see it. am oblivious in its ability to function. i read the gossip in the daily astorian that passes for news. i get that their next stories will be coming from those dirt boxes.

how will those close to me know if i reported something anonymously?

If someone has some truly verifiable “dirt” and it is shown to the public and someone pays dearly for it, then justice is served.

Do you honestly think this is the way for justice to be served? if someone put out a “got dirt” on anyone of us, and 20,000 (or even one tenth of that) people were focused on looking for our dirt, how clean would any one us be? how much of what we do could be twisted by the paper? verifiable dirt? you really think that is what they are going for? is that what you read when gamm writes? verifiable shit?

those got dirt boxes would be treasure troves for anyone who would just file names away until needed. read history.

In order for this to work you need major grassroots support to do all the grunt work. Think about what you are saying there. What, exactly is this “grunt” work? Spying? Checking up on each “tip”? Listening in on conversations?

that’s what is freaking me out about this campaign. I don’t know if Lee made a mistake. God knows I’ve made a few zillion. but the idea that a recall is being done FIRST and then “GOT DIRT” is being asked for is vile. Either you have the dirt and its the reason you are recalling the man, or you don’t and you should have waited until you did.

Justice being served? Now you are totally being naive. Sorry, god love you and you know I do but this has nothing to do with justice.

5 On Jan 31, 10:21 pm, OregonGuy wrote:

My reference was to a 17th century writer, the 1st Marquis of Halifax, George Saville. Fifty years later, this reference—trimmer—was used to describe someone who would lurch from side to side in attempt to right the keel of state. No doubt believing in one’s own sense of infallability, this constant lurching would actually result in losing the keel, altogether. I believe the writer in the latter case was Jonathan Swift. But nobody reads him anymore.

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Thanks for the nod.