2 On Dec 20, 03:51 pm, Anotherastorian wrote:

You are seriously disturbed McGee. How could you possibly consider their trying to make some people’s Christmas’ just a little better as bad??

And what do you mean “non-effort”? What were they supposed to do, drag out a gas grill? Since all of Astoria was out of power, I would imagine they were too!

And if you had bothered listening to the broadcast this morning, you would have heard that they are also donating large sums to the area food banks and other agencies…something like $25 Thousand total if I recall. I don’t call that “non-effort”.

4 On Dec 20, 06:59 pm, AnotherAstorian wrote:

Thank you Walter – all the way home tonight I was trying to figure out WHY he does this and came to the same conclusion – that no matter what they did, he’d find a reason to bash them.

6 On Dec 20, 10:18 pm, Programmer wrote:

I’m going to write a McGoo filter plugin for Firefox.
Anything written by the too-tight-pony-tail-wearing-dirty-tree-hugging-hippie-bastard will be blanked out and replaced with “blah blah port! yadda-yadda tourists! blah blah LNG! yippie yippie Marquis! blah blah SPELLING!”
That should keep the flavor, and cut down on my headaches. (His brand of logic (fanaticism) has been known to cause stokes in sane people.)
Anyone else want in?

8 On Dec 21, 06:15 pm, MissBlue wrote:

Tryan – since you missed it I’ll give the short version:

Yesterday on 103.9, from 9:00 until just after 1:00, the whole show was devoted to people calling in with “wishes”. Every hour the staff would evaluate the calls and pick the wishes they could grant. The people were wishing for themselves or their spouse, a neighbor, grandkids, etc….and it was SO touching! Stephanie & Sonja did a great job, and there were many times that it got quite emotional, I’m not sure HOW they kept it together.

I was only able to listen while in my car for about an hour, and I called in, saying that I just really wanted to be able to get my grandchildren new coats. I didn’t know until today that my wish had been granted, and I was able to stop at Bradwood Landing’s office to pick it up gift cards this afternoon. I was so moved I was practically in tears, knowing that now that I can make my grandchildren’s Christmas happy. I should even be able to get them a few toys for under the tree!

The whole thing was made possible by Bradwood Landing – Stephanie said that Bradwood Landing called them, asking if the station would help them help others, and the station was thrilled to be involved.

When I was at their office, I asked how many wishes they’d been able to grant – and the nice lady there said about FORTY! Forty people get to have Christmas when they might not have…I think that’s pretty special.

Shame on you SCROOGE MCGEE – you really do let your personal opinions get in the way of any compassion you may possess. You may think that they are just “buying the people off”, but I, nor anyone I’ve talked to about this thinks anything of the sort.

10 On Dec 21, 08:17 pm, AnotherAstorian wrote:

Yeah LCCK, he’ll be on MY list too, as the one NOT to vote into ANY OFFICE WHATSOEVER.

Congrats MissBlue, I hope your grandkids enjoy their gifts :)

I know several people that were included in that radio promotion yesterday…and the people that I know would NOT have been able to have Christmas without some help. I’m happy that the people at Bradwood Landing thought of this, it was a great idea!

12 On Dec 21, 09:15 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

And you have a well-deserved Merry Christmas MissBlue with your granted wish from Northern Star Natural Gas.

Too bad so many more that suffered the devastation and loss caused by the events of our recent past cannot share in your good fortune this Christmas.

It would have been very nice if Northern Star Natural Gas, if I were wishing, could have used their presumed funds to see to it that many families that will not have the opportunity to, have a welcomed Christmas Dinner and extra food this year due to parents not being able to work and maybe not having access to recovery resources at the moment.

I would imagine the local Food Banks or any other community recovery non-profit would not refuse any good fortune this Energy Speculator, Northern Star Natural Gas/Bradwood Landing L.L.C. would shower on them to help many hundreds. Can you imagine how many millions of dollars they have already invested to the negative in that project?

Yes I do have a personal opinion and with the resources NSNG has made it clear they have in their advertising budget with this clearly obvious P.R. event, they certainly could, in my opinion only, have made Christmas better for many, many more deserving citizens than forty or so and without pleading to get it.

I have been touring as much of the county as I could the last couple of days and I can hardly believe the damage caused to so many people, their property, our forests, a sad Christmas for so many, it saddens me deeply, the depth of the damage. It’s for real, vast, and cannot be over-reported.

Once again, a very Merry Christmas to you and yours MissBlue.

14 On Dec 21, 09:51 pm, MissBlues wrote:

Mr McGee – I am amazed at your audacity

I am one of only about 40 families (I think) that are being helped by this companies generosity. They didn’t HAVE to do this…they could have just contributed to the food banks, which they are anyway…with thousands of dollars

But no, they wanted to make sure regular people got helped too!

Considering they’re contributing more than many of us make in an entire year, YOU have absolutely NO argument here. Give it up!

16 On Dec 21, 10:24 pm, JoAnn wrote:

I am another of those people that was helped this week by Bradwood Landing with a wish.

I am so thankful to them for helping me make a Christmas for my children.
And Mr. McGee, I am SO offended by your bashing of them!

If not for the opportunity to call and make a wish, I may not have been able to give my kids any Christmas at all…their help made a huge differene!

I’m with the one that calls you SCROOGE MCGEE! Whoever you are!!

18 On Dec 22, 06:33 am, pamela wrote:

Hey, Mister McGoo has had a hard year of bashing, you guys. You have to give him credit for sticking his neck out and opening his mouth most every day on one forum or another though.

Hey…...Maybe someone could print up some flyers inviting people to send him christmas cards and place them at local businesses for him too. Wouldn’t that be great for McGee to open up his mailbox and see it “crazy full” of cards from well-wishers?

20 On Dec 22, 05:53 pm, Country Boy wrote:

This was all done after they got their go ahead from the wonderful brave commissioners. This was no sell out because the majority of Clatsop County supports Bradwood Landing McGee did you grant any one a wish or even provide any family a meal? Did you donate to the food bank? Are you scared that some people will be able to earn a better living when Bradwood Landing becomes a reality?

Why don’t you join in supporting the majority and support Bradwood Landing (per the only Daily Asstorian poll)

The are supporting this community

22 On Dec 22, 08:21 pm, AnotherAstorian wrote:

Very good point Emil – I had heard they donated trees, but didn’t catch how many. I know if I lived paycheck-to-paycheck like many people do around here, the purchase of a tree might have been tough.

And to KY who said “I was wondering how you guys can afford a computer and internet access, but cannot afford a few widgets for some kids for Christmas, must other people have to supply your other wants and needs.” KY is a good name cause you’re an ass as well….SO many people around here DO live paycheck to paycheck, and when a whole bunch of them are probably out at LEAST a weeks pay for this month, what do you think that did to their Christmas Plans? “Hmmmm, do I buy food or get the kids a couple of toys?”

I’m sure that even the people who didn’t participate in the radio promotion, or get a free tree, will be having the best Christmas they can make under the circumstances. I just hope that everyone that needs it is taking advantage of the food banks!

24 On Dec 22, 09:40 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Good post Country Boy.

“It sure would be great if we could ever see Patrick do a positive post instead of always trying to make some one, some company, or some governing body look bad. Patrick, do you thrive on the theroy that if you can make others look bad it makes you look good? (It dose not).

Bradwood Landing, I want to thank you for buying 50 Christmas trees without a bunch of publicity to give free of charge to any one that could not afford it.”

You know what Emil, Northern Star Natural Gas can buy all the air time they wish and without my permission mind you, and they can also choose to spend their money, to their benefit, in any way they wish, to whatever end and if this is what suits them, so be it. 90 people in this community have benefitted from it and hopefully will have a better Christmas because of it.

I hope all the others that have been hit hard by the events of the last few weeks, will be showered with Christmas blessings as well.

26 On Dec 23, 08:20 am, I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped wrote:

Well AnotherAssholian, I lost half my fucking roof,even got some water damage BOO fucking HOO for me, I managed okay, why, because I manage my money. Most people who live pay check to pay check need to figure out what wants and needs are, people do not need Cable TV or Satellite TV, a 50” big screen, they do not need a 2007 F-350 with a 6” lift and 35”tires,or a computer with the latest high speed internet service ,ECT…......People need to start living within there means..

What the hell did you do during the storm and after Mr. AssHolian. did you spend it cutting trees off houses and clearing off roads with no sleep,,because our local fire department and road crews could not get it all, did you do that for free, because you cared about the people in the community, I bet you did no such thing. I started out not bashing anyone, but you Mr. AssHolian deserve a good probing without the KY, spread it out wide, c-mon you can take it!!! who’s your daddy!!!

28 On Dec 23, 11:39 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

Oh, and what did I do during the storm?

Like many of us, not enough and I’ll always feel bad for not being able to do more.

30 On Dec 23, 04:04 pm, I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped wrote:

Sure Al, originality was never one of your strong points, you dipshit!

32 On Dec 23, 11:10 pm, I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped wrote:

Well if everybody else uses there right to free speech to thrash on me, I should have every right to defend myself against you “Suto-intellectuals” You may not like what I say and I sure do not like what you say..”AnotherAstorian” wrote; “KY is a good name cause you’re an ass as well….” This person attacked me using vulger language over an opinion I shared that had no vulgarity in it. I attacked back, now Im an outcast, I do not think so. I cannot be offended but you can, because you say so, who do you think you are the thought police? OH yeah, you are. Learn how to work kid!

34 On Dec 24, 03:22 am, I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped wrote:

I was trying to conduct myself in a very respectful manner, but seeing that tolerance is not one of your strong points there is no reason to continue to defend myself against such intolerance. If you must, keep making yourself look foolish as I stand by laughing

36 On Dec 24, 03:50 am, Thought Police wrote:

this is what you call conducting yourself in “a very respectful manner”? Even your ridiculous sig is trash! the following is just from this thread. God knows you’ve polluted other threads here

“I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped…I lost half my fucking roof..Mr. AssHolian deserve a good probing without the KY, spread it out wide, c-mon you can take it!!! ”

You are really out of your tree, do you really think you’re fooling anyone when you deny you’re being blatantly offensive? You are a goddamned idiot.

38 On Dec 24, 02:16 pm, Thought Police wrote:

Congratulations, for other than your contentious sig, you’ve completed a post here without spewing filth. Keep it that way. Lose the sig, come up with a new one, and stay in the discussions here because everybody should have a seat at the table and a chance to speak. You and me are cool and terms have been met, thank.

40 On Dec 24, 07:08 pm, I need some KY Im tired of being dry humped wrote:

Well as long as we are all cool thats for the better Thanks

42 On Dec 24, 09:31 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

My best wishes and happiest holidays to all of you and may you all prosper in the coming New Year.

44 On Dec 25, 09:24 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

Is this Carol Newman that kooky old hippy woman from New York City who has a place in Brownsmead? She’s another one of those outsiders with too much money trying to tell us locals what’s good for the people of the county

Kooky?

Hippy?

Outsider?

Carol Newman?

Board of Directors – KMUN Radio

Lives the way she does by choice, not necessity.

Community Activist.

More balls that any spineless anonym on many community issues and not afraid to stand up and be accountable.

That Carol Newman, yes.

46 On Dec 25, 12:29 pm, Trillium wrote:

More balls that any spineless anonym on many community issues and not afraid to stand up and be accountable.
____________________________________________________

Mcgee goes for the jugular using his tried and true “My Dog’s Balls Are Bigger Than Your Dog’s” gambit.
Me thinks this Newman woman and Citizen McGee might’ve shared a few bongloads in the past.

48 On Dec 28, 01:00 am, Emil Nyberg wrote:

Why not close PDX to keep those darn Califorians out and close I-5 near the south border of Oregon to keep those darn Califorians from getting our wine? I know we do not need their fruit and veges.

50 On Dec 28, 08:47 am, Jon Dana wrote:

Come on Guy you can do better than that.

52 On Dec 28, 10:14 pm, AnotherAstorian wrote:

Californication…has it ever occurred to you that if more electricity is generated from natural gas, it may make the coal-fired plants, which is where we get most of our electricity, obsolete? If we used natural gas instead of coal, it would make a huge difference in greenhouse gas emissions. Yes, wind power would be wonderful, but I don’t wish to see all of myh hillsides full of wind turbines! Natural gas IS the least harmful of the fuels produced by our planet, for our planet.

And have you been paying NO attention at all to the facts stating that the gas delivered here, at least to the Bradwood facility, is destined for Oregon and Washington FIRST? Yes, NW Natural saw an opportunity to supply a southern pipeline as well, but the majority of the gas will be for US. I refuse to buy into the rhetoric offered by Columbia Riverkeepers and the like that continue to spout that all of the LNG coming into the Pacific NW is going to California – that is utter bull-crap…and anyone that believes their idiocy hasn’t done their homework.

Now on the other hand, I have absolutely NO faith in the one they are trying for in Warrenton – Oregon LNG, formerly Calpine. THAT gas IS going to California, and I cannot believe they’re even trying to get that one approved…what a horrible location!

54 On Dec 29, 02:00 am, Californication wrote:

I like facts. The population of the entire State of Oregon is 3.7 million and not pojected to reach 4 million until 2012. Los Angeles County—9.9 million. California—46.4 million.

The proposed pipeline from Bradwood will go to Madras, which is just north of Redmond and Bend and east of the Cascades, and that pipeline leads directly to California:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/analysis_publications/ngpipeline/western.html
If they were planning to supply the greater population of Oregon one presumes they would want to tie into the nearer pipeline which they could do near or south of Portland, not on the other side of the Cascades.

You might want to check your sources on electrical generation in Oregon, as more than half the state’s electricity comes from hydroelectric sources, not coal generation. Natural gas already accounts for about 1/3 and coal makes up most of the rest, primarily from one plant.
Here are the numbers (2006):
Hydroelectric: 1,874 thousand MWh
Natural gas: 1,354 thousand MWh
Coal: 411 thousand MWh
Renewables (other than hydroelectric): 190 thousand MWh

As I said before, the LNG is going to supply California, not Oregon as it isn’t needed in the foreseeable future.

Electric cars sound great. I look forward to the day the batteries become efficient enough to make sense. The Chevy Volt will have a gasoline engine which will kick in if the battery needs charging, which it will if a trip is longer than about 40 miles, so despite the engine being electric powered it will still only get 60 mpg with the battery charging taken into account on longer trips. There’s hope in something new, however: http://www.physorg.com/news117212815.html

Some day, maybe.

56 On Dec 29, 02:43 pm, Jon Dana wrote:

Those dams are an ecological disaster and should be removed from the Columbia. replaced by gas-fired plants ran by a Oregon pud then we could charge more to calf. for elec. and give ourselves a break. Ya I know I’m dreaming

58 On Dec 29, 06:16 pm, Californication wrote:

Yes, it would be a second line—a 36” line to serve California, not the NW. The line into Washington is only 30”. Bigger pipe = primary pipe. The larger line would be the primary line, despite what Northern Star would like you to believe. If Bradwood isn’t built neither pipeline will be built. If Bradwood is built both pipelines will likely be built. If their primary purpose is to supply the NW with gas, why would they need a larger pipeline leading to California?

Like Governor Kulongoski, I’d like to see the justification for adding LNG facilities in the area. So far I haven’t seen any.

60 On Dec 29, 08:25 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Oh! And The Justification?

A Billion cubic feet of vaporized Natural Gas per day at, say, a wholesale price of $0.0047 per cubic foot?

$4,700,000.00 per day, per site?

62 On Dec 30, 10:13 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

The pipeline crossing the river to the Williams pipeline is essentially dead at the moment with Bradwood and Oregon LNGfocussing on “The Palomar Pipeline” proposal, at least to my understanding.

Once again “AA”, both companies will junction at Timber along with Northwest Natural Gas’s Spur line from Mist.