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Still tinkering with the News Bar on the right column.
If you hit the Read More
button at the bottom of the gray box, you can see all the news stories. Hopefully I can eventually integrate something like this into the site in the future.
Is something that you would find useful?.....Is anyone clicking the links since it has been up?
2 On Nov 28, 11:08 am, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:
Somehow people seem to overlook the major cause of small business collapse in Astoria. Look what happened when the 60s era Safeway became a 2000 era Safeway. They added a bakery, a wine shop, an upscale Deli with take-out Chinese food, a gas station, a flower shop and a pharmacy. Previously we had two bakeries in town, now there are three. Each had potentially 50% of the population, they now have 33%. There were 3 pharmacies. Their potential 33% went down to 25%. What business can survive that sort of competition?
If that isn’t bad enough there are now attractants to Warrenton, Costco and Fred Meyer both now selling fuel, both have bakeries and butchers. Freddies and WalGreens both have pharmacies. Family businesses can’t compete with the national leverage the big stores have. Wait until Home Depot guts more of our businesses. What’s next?
The only way to stop the bleeding is to put restrictions on how large a store can be constructed here.
3 On Nov 28, 12:32 pm, walter richards wrote:
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Their potential is 100%. The maximum potential does not change, based on how many businesses there are. That’s what competition is about. I guess their potential would change if we were under a socialist economy that told people where to shop, and divided the population evenly among the potential shops.
And anyone who thinks “mom and pop” can’t compete with “the big boys” is naive. “Mom and Pop” can beat the “big boys”, IF they provide better service – even if their prices are slightly higher. The problem with many of the local stores, is they DON’T provide better service – they’re too used to not having competition.
The other problem, of course, is most people also prefer to get all their shopping done at one location. Perhaps some of the local merchants should form a co-op, and operate under one roof?
4 On Nov 28, 01:20 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:
Would you accept taking the Name Brand Outlet Mall concept to Astoria Downtown City Core retail area?
Some small towns have toyed with this idea and some seem to think it viable.
5 On Nov 28, 03:24 pm, Champ wrote:
On Nov 28, 12:32 pm, walter richards wrote
And anyone who thinks “mom and pop” can’t compete with “the big boys” is naive. “Mom and Pop” can beat the “big boys”, IF they provide better service – even if their prices are slightly higher. The problem with many of the local stores, is they DON’T provide better service – they’re too used to not having competition.
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Pure poppycock with a generous heaping helping of balderdash on the side, Walter. Cheaper prices always wins the market. Mom and Pop can’t purchase in volumes like a big chain can, so they are effectively shut our from competing
Case in point. Men’s clothing stores. They used to be a fixture in all small town commerical retail areas USA. Now only seen in urban malls. And you wanna talk about service? That suit/sport coat could be taken back any number of times to be let out or taken in as many times as needed to be. Those slacks your mom bought you as a sophomore would be let out every year til graduation.
6 On Nov 28, 03:54 pm, Tryan Hartill wrote:
Champ
It’s Good ol’ Supply and demand at work here.
People are demanding cheap stuff with limited service.
Other than limit subsidies given to the Corpo’s, there is nothing citizens can do to help the Mom and Pop stores except to spend their money there. If they don’t the small ones fail as we’ve seen.
7 On Nov 28, 04:39 pm, walter richards wrote:
Nonsence, Champ.
I worked at the RadioShack FRANCHISES (a “mom and pop” operation) when Costco and Freddies came in. Instead of losing business because of their cheaper prices, the franchises got MORE business. Why? Because we were more knowledgable about electronics than the competition, and we treated the customer better.
Of course, it probably also helped that we were located close to them, so the customer didn’t have to travel far from their other shopping. Again, people like it when their shopping is all together.
8 On Nov 28, 06:01 pm, Champ wrote:
Oh come on, Walter. Radio Shack is a national business entity. The franchises benefit by mass nationwide product promotions, seasonal sales events as well as slick advertising campaigns in print and broadcast. So that hardly qualifies as a proof of what you’re trying to peddle here. Most people are baffled by electric gizmos and gadgets, so yeah, a small shop with a good customer to salesman ratio will keep that cash register drawer opening and closing. But what about other goods the consumer isn’t so mystified about?. Be it clothing, hardware, housewares, shoes, prescription meds, books, groceries, etc., the budget minded shopper will invaribly seek out the cheapest source and leave Mom & Pop high dry and lonesome.
9 On Nov 29, 05:05 am, Emil Nyberg wrote:
If it was not for Builders Supply and the local businesses there would be no playgrounds for our kids. It is our busionesses that give back to the communities. Just ask Walgreen’s for a donation and it is very hard to get. Home Depot sends all their profits to Atlanta and even prints their own ads in other words take all we can, give back nothing.
Cheapest is not always what cost the least. Giving back to the community needs to be factored in.
That is why we need family wage jobs, when over 40% of our students need assistance to get breakfast or lunch something needs to be done!
10 On Nov 29, 07:56 am, Jeff wrote:
Getting back to the original question, I like the gray box with news. It acts as a quick recap of items of local interest.
11 On Nov 29, 10:35 am, walter richards wrote:
“Mom and pop” aren’t competing on a national level, they’re competing with the local (say) WalMart. And if they’ve been around for a number of years before WalMart comes in, yet haven’t built a loyal customer base … there’s a reason for it. And that reason is probably lack of service.
I still contend the main reason people shop “box stores” over “mom and pop” has more to do with multiple items in one location (pharmacy, grocery, clothes) than with price. The “proof” is that most people I know tend to shop their local “mom and pop” stores when they’re after whatever item that store sells – but go to the “box” store when they need multiple items, rather than running all around town. Hence my suggestion that some of these “mom and pop” stores should form a co-op to compete with the “box” stores.
12 On Nov 29, 10:43 am, walter richards wrote:
btw – if the franchise owners hadn’t built up a loyal base, and been known for providing good service, having the RadioShack name wouldn’t have been a benefit. It was widely known we didn’t usually have the electronics RadioShack had on sale, or in their catalog. Most of the electronics we sold were other brands.
13 On Nov 29, 11:03 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Has the Non-Compete Clause been abandoned by City Planning/Community Development Departments?
How many Pharmacies can a small community support?
Walgreens?
Rite-Aid?
Fred Meyers?
Costco?
who else?
All within spitting distance?
Process of elimination maybe?
14 On Nov 29, 12:24 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:
I don’t think Radio Shack will survive is Best Buy or Fry’s ever moves into the area. I don’t think ABS or City Lumber will survive after Home Depot comes to town. City Lumber closed their Seaside store about ten years ago where there were four lumber yards within ten miles of one another. (City, Copeland, Gearhart and Cannon Beach). One deterrent to starting a new business around here is the fact there are big boxes breathing down their necks. Why bother sinking your life savings into a dream and have it blown out of the water by a faceless corporation that sucks more money out of the community than they replenish.
It is sad to say it, but Cannon Beach protects their local businesses with CCRs better than any community in the County.
15 On Nov 29, 01:18 pm, Champ wrote:
Okay, I’m getting the picture now. Let’s turn Clatsop County in to one gigantic Radio Shack!
Because only Radio Shack can save us from the greedy corporations, land grabbing developers, captialist pigs, and evil monopolists!
16 On Nov 29, 01:48 pm, walter richards wrote:
Quote: Let’s turn Clatsop County in to one gigantic Radio Shack!
You’d definitely see a change in the population. More HAMs, and electronic “geeks”. lol
Though Guy is probably right about a BestBuys or Frys moving in. Not because of the prices, but because (from what I’ve seen) they believe in customer service as well. Which, in electronics, is more “find what the customer needs” rather than “find what the customer wants”.
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1 On Nov 27, 09:27 pm, Floyd Holcom wrote:
It has been a long time since I have been to this site, but now that you ask of what you could add to your Blog, my answer would be “Data”.
Did you know that there are more than 27 businesses that have either collapsed or moved out of Astoria in the past year? Did you know that small business provides 87% of the donations to non-profits and other organizations that support our area, like shelters, hospital, parks, chamber activities, united way, political campaigns, museums? The other 13% is individuals that are either retired or providing these funds because of the work they’re are employeed with or the funds they recieve because of retirement. You don’t see a lot of people asking for assistance providing donations to the local baseball team. You also do see peoples names that provide these donations that do own small businesses.
Data. Anyway, I just thought I would throw that out there since historical facts don;t fib, but might provide answers to those asking why.
Having just left the planning commission this evening, I realized that our city needs to be more favorable to attracting small business, not pushing them out.
Support your honest small business and keep them here or provide them a reason to move here, it will provide answers you only wish we could see.
FE Holcom