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by Tryan Hartill

Yes it’s been a long time since I have posted. Some of it had to do with a 5 day vacation I took to Denver and San Francisco, which I will post about over the next few days. The rest had to do with just not having any desire to write anything.

Anyway here are a few links and stories from around the web….

Clatsop Charter

Iraq

  • The Booman Trib has a post up that questions the validity of the new Bin Ladin video. It seems that every time OBL talks about recent events the video freezes. Coincidence? Either way I’m sure this will be discussed in depth over the next week or so and hopefully it will become clear one way or another.
  • Here is a great recap of Ron Paul at the Fox Debate.

Idiots

  • A High School student in Louisiana is facing 22 years in jail for his part in a fight. who knew that a aggravated assault charge will get you 22 years in the slammer!
  • A McD’s employee is charged with “reckless conduct” after she gives a salty burger to a police officer.

Hot Weather

According to the weather folks the hot weather will last one more day. Monday is supposed to top out at 89 degrees. It will cool off a bit by Tuesday to a more reasonable 75.

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1 On Sep 10, 06:46 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

Ron Paul is attracting a large following so I hear and of many different persuasions and is focussing on the Internet moreso than mainstream.

What is he? A Republican? A Libertarian? Ultra-Right Wing Extremist?

A long time friend of mine, who is nationally prominent, in the White Supremacist, Anti-Jew, Anti-Black, anything but White, Western European and their values movement in America, loves this guy and his message.

Is this the man with the message Americans who are sick and tired of being sick and tired of the slow implosion of our two party system are going to listen to as 1930s to mid-1940s Germany listened to a little fella from Munich?

We must all be careful with this man, he’s dangerous, at least in my view.

2 On Sep 10, 07:25 am, Registered to Vote wrote:

Thanks for the info on the Charter Integrity group. I have contacted them and urge everybody else opposed to this power/money grab by the DA to do likewise. With all the free advertising Marquis is going to get through his mouthpiece, aka The Daily Astorian, over the next couple of months, we can’t afford to sit back and let the few who are willing to stick their necks out shoulder this alone.

3 On Sep 10, 09:05 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

So, tell us a little bit about the organizing committee of this group.
Who are its members?

4 On Sep 10, 01:16 pm, Walter Richards wrote:

I think the main reason so many people are attracted to Ron Paul’s campaign, is that he has been the most outspoken politician against illegal immigration for a couple years. But he’s too conservative (read: not a RINO) to actually get the nomination.

Hopefully, now that Fred Thompson’s entered the race, any possibility of McCain or Guiliani getting the nomination will dry up.

5 On Sep 10, 01:24 pm, THartill wrote:

I really don’t think Immigration has much to do with it. If you ask his followers how they feel about it, I bet it would be pretty evenly split. I think the main thing is that people see him as a straight talker and doesn’t pander to anyone.

6 On Sep 10, 04:31 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Below is the response I got from my friend on his thinking on Paul’s Iraq position.
> Hey, Pat!
>
> Fuck Iraq! We have no business there. That’s my answer to those who worry
> about the “aftermath” of a pullout.
>
> I’ll fight for national sovereignty, or what’s left of it, over the global
> plantation of those who hurl the “isolationist” label. Our manufacturing
> base was sacrificed to the goddamned internationalists that are
> represented by the controlled mass media and the approved Duopoly Party.
> Now we’re on a path to be turned into a Third World country. Our trade
> policy should favor OUR industries, not China’s or Israel’s or anybody
> else’s. If that’s isolationist, so be it.
>
> I can’t explain it all from scratch unless you inform yourself with
> articles like Dr. Paul’s “Neo-CONNED!” to know what we’re up against. Dr.
> Paul is a BIG threat to the status quo. The Jew-controlled mass media lie
> to us, and for the interests of World Jewry and their internationalism.
> Why do people find this fact unusual? They control politics and have the
> TV-viewing sheep asking questions like, “But, but what about
> the aftermath? To want to return to the Constitution is ‘kooky;’ it’s way
> out there!” I pulled the following comment for you from a blog I saw a few
> minutes ago.

7 On Sep 10, 04:59 pm, Prarie Pup wrote:

1 On Sep 10, 06:46 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

A long time friend of mine, who is nationally prominent, in the White Supremacist, Anti-Jew, Anti-Black, anything but White, Western European and their values movement in America, loves this guy and his message.
_______________________________________________________

Unless you can qualify by giving the name of your “friend”, this vague accusation attempting to link Paul with the ultra right wing white supremcist lunatic fringe, your statement is as vacant as local Democratic Party Committee chairman Larry Taylor’s list of “Girls I’ve Made Love To In My Life”

8 On Sep 11, 07:00 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

“Unless you can qualify by giving the name of your “friend”, this vague accusation attempting to link Paul with the ultra right wing white supremcist lunatic fringe, your statement is as vacant as local Democratic Party Committee chairman Larry Taylor’s list of “Girls I’ve Made Love To In My Life””

Just sharing information and trying to show the range of attention Paul is garnering “Anonym”, use it as you wish, I don’t rally care.

9 On Sep 11, 07:36 am, Pierce wrote:

I think we know a smear when we see it. Are you still supporting Teddy Roosevelt in 08?

10 On Sep 11, 09:52 am, Bunny Von Munchausen wrote:

The fact is, McGee, is that your online credibility went in the tank a long time ago. Anything appearing under your name sends up warning flags.

11 On Sep 11, 11:42 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

((((“I think we know a smear when we see it. Are you still supporting Teddy Roosevelt in 08?”))))

Well! Well!, Well! “Mr. Credibility Judge” and “Cruise Missle” expert hisself!

Out of respect for Hartill and the intergity of this site, I’m going to let that go Christie.

Again, just trying to pass on information that shows the range of interest in Ron Paul.

Accept it, don’t accept it, your choice.

12 On Sep 11, 04:05 pm, Pierce wrote:

Like T. said Paul is a straight talker. The guy makes sense. He has a lot of appeal and yes credibility to back it up. Bush doesn’t make sense or even seem to know where he is half the time. Cheney is a disgrace. The other repubs in the race are window dressing for more of the lame-o same-o. The gullibility quotient is maxed out for Americans. So don’t come on this or any other forum with your neocon talking points taken out of context from 30 years ago and paint Ron Paul as some kind of white supremacist. If anyone needs any political advise from you, I’m sure they’ll ask you for it.

13 On Sep 11, 07:06 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:

Did we hit a nerve Christie?

Once again, I find it interesting the following and diversity in philosophies Paul is attracting, obviously, you included.

I am in no way inferring or attempting to paint any kind of picture of this man.

Quite frankly the message is fresh and definitely attracting attention.

His straw polls are positive, his candidate preference polls, especially in Texas where he finished third are very good.

Even a person of your character would have to admit he’s causing a bit of a ruckus within the Republican Political Machine and making the Democrats sit up and pay attetnion.

Another Ross Perot perhaps? A Barry Goldwater? A credible candidate?

Where do you think he can take America?

He definitely stands out amongst all candidates posturing for position at the moment and once again attracting a very diversified following.

Think you can give an answer not mixed with spit and vitriole?

14 On Sep 12, 08:30 am, Pierce wrote:

McGee wrote”A long time friend of mine, who is nationally prominent, in the White Supremacist, Anti-Jew, Anti-Black, anything but White, Western European and their values movement in America, loves this guy and his message.

Is this the man with the message Americans who are sick and tired of being sick and tired of the slow implosion of our two party system are going to listen to as 1930s to mid-1940s Germany listened to a little fella from Munich?

We must all be careful with this man, he’s dangerous, at least in my view.”
Then a few posts later he writes:
“I am in no way inferring or attempting to paint any kind of picture of this man.”
Explain yourself man. Do you suspect Ron Paul is power mad? Wants to take over the world? Based on what? Better back it up with more than you have so far or it’s just a cheap slimy smear attempt.

Who is your “nationally prominent White Supremacist” friend” ? or maybe you’re not at liberty to say? Why not? Go ahead be a name dropper. I don’t need to speak for Ron Paul, he speaks for himself quite well on the provided clip and on many other occasions available on you tube. I happen to agree with most of what he says and think just maybe he is best qualified to clean up after the worst administration this country has ever experienced.

15 On Sep 12, 03:47 pm, The Uppertown Love Monster wrote:

Poor McGee, he’s choppin’ but the chips just ain’t flyin’

16 On Sep 12, 08:27 pm, Auntie wrote:

I am trying to figure out how Uppertown Love Machine turned into Uppertown Love Monster. What happened, man?

17 On Sep 13, 08:04 am, Pierce wrote:

Patrick when you wrote: “Even a person of your character would have to admit he’s causing a bit of a ruckus within the Republican Political Machine and making the Democrats sit up and pay attetnion.” What exactly were you attempting to say about my character? I would appreciate some clarification.

18 On Sep 13, 01:21 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:

Patrick, I understand you took down your VOY forum. Were you hit like KAST was?

19 On Sep 13, 02:40 pm, Bunny Von Munchausen wrote:

On Sep 13, 08:04 am, Pierce wrote:

Patrick …..What exactly were you attempting to say about my character? ——————————————————————————————————————————————————
I’m curious how he is going to qualify that, too.

Stand and deliver, McGee. So far we’re seeing more about your “character” than Mr. Christie’s

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21 On Sep 15, 08:51 am, Dieter wrote:

I don’t know what that previous message means. Someone please help me understand. Who is this Davis Jones ? I know I do not speak your language excellant, but I am trying.

22 On Sep 17, 07:22 am, Pierce wrote:

Regarding the Bin Laden video , I did not see or hear one mention of how it freezes on any radio, television or in any newspaper article. Just a lot of chatter about the beard.

23 On Sep 17, 07:23 am, Pierce wrote:

Regarding the Bin Laden video , I have not seen or heard one mention of how it freezes on any radio, television or in any newspaper article. Just a lot of chatter about the beard.

24 On Sep 17, 08:38 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

(((((“Patrick when you wrote: “Even a person of your character would have to admit he’s causing a bit of a ruckus within the Republican Political Machine and making the Democrats sit up and pay attetnion.” What exactly were you attempting to say about my character? I would appreciate some clarification.”)))))

What I am saying is, a person of your character, a person of Tryan’s character, a person of my character, a person of my friend’s character, the general disparity in philosophies, are definitely paying close attention to what Ron Paul, a 20 year, Republican Congressman, is saying.

As much as you hate “The Republican Message”, you comfortable this guy will not turn on your butt, if elected?

It’s happened before you know.

Sorry but, I have to inform you that everything is not just about you Christie, any of us.

25 On Sep 17, 10:33 am, Pierce wrote:

The best way to evaluate someones character is to look at their track record, talk to their friends and employers, look at what they’ve done. Then go ahead and listen to what they say. Here is what Mr. Paul stands for (from his website)He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
His “Republican Message” makes pretty good sense in my humble estimation. I think he is a genuine straight shooter and a man of his word. I think his track record backs that up. Thats what you call credibility. I realize some people had a similar impression of W. If you really looked at his track record though you saw different. A pump and dump artist who could always get bailed out by daddy, the Saudis or some other string puller on the inside. No wonder Vincete Fox called him the cockiest person since Kid Rock.

Any of rest of the republican or democratic pack would be an improvement over what we have now to be sure. I think talk of racism and antisemitism is a red herring put forth by the same corporates that brought on the Bush debacle of the politics of terror, lies and war and torture. Criminal in every sense of the word. Thats why 95% of the repub pols are running scared against Paul. You wrote “Even a person of your character would have to admit he’s causing a bit of a ruckus within the Republican Political Machine and making the Democrats sit up and pay attetnion.” You could have used “you” in lieu of the first 9 words and said the same thing as what you claim to have meant. Not that I ever questioned that he was “causing a bit of a ruckus” either. I’m all for it. Glad to see it. You guys need a good shake up. Bush,Cheney, Rove the Neocons and their media shills got things just about FUBAR. Just my opinion, but then I have been informed that “everything is not just about you Christie” Lets see I’ll just turn on Fox news and see what it is all about. Yep OJ Simpson.

26 On Sep 17, 01:33 pm, Doody wrote:

On Sep 17, 08:38 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

“What I am saying is, a person of your character, a person of Tryan’s character, a person of my character, a person of my friend’s character, the general blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah…........”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Mcgee, that is, beyond any shadow of any doubt whatsover, the lamest attempt at an explanation I have ever seen.
Don’t you ever get tired of making a complete jackass out of yourself?

27 On Sep 18, 05:04 am, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:

Ron Paul also wants to reverse Roe v. Wade.

28 On Sep 18, 12:38 pm, Pierce wrote:

Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist. As such he says “Foremost in these policies is that the federal government has no jurisdiction over abortion.” He would leave it up to the states. I doubt any states would ban a womans right to choose. It would be worth it just to have that wedge issue removed from national elections.

This is somewhat unrelated but Craig Paul Roberts has a new column out. Well worth the quick read. http://www.vdare.com/roberts/070916_conservatism.htm

29 On Sep 21, 05:48 am, Walter Richards wrote:

I don’t know if I’d classify Ron Paul as a “strict constitutionalist”. He’s a constitutionalist, no doubt about that … but a strict one? No.

I’m a strict constitutionalist. Until Ron Paul speaks/votes along the lines of doing away with every federal agency/program that isn’t one of the 18 or so allowed by the Constitution … he isn’t a “strict” constitutionalist.

Of course, I realize if he does … he won’t stand a chance of being elected.

30 On Sep 21, 09:13 am, Pierce wrote:

If you don’t mind my asking; who did you vote for in the last couple presidential elections?

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