2 On Aug 3, 06:28 am, Not an Attorney wrote:

You mean that people that aren’t attorney’s can gain access to, read, and comprehend legal information?

Inconceivable!

Obviously, Google must be stopped!

The legal community still feels very much like the Catholic Church before the reformation.

Much like the priests of old, lawyers think that they should keep the laws and legal opinions away from the common folk, they’ll interpret it and tell us what we need to know.

Josh really doesn’t think much of us Clatsop County folk, does he?

4 On Aug 3, 02:24 pm, scott wrote:

Tryan were there dates on the first two (Lang and Hazen) Documents? they seem to be missing.

6 On Aug 4, 01:00 am, MomOfThree wrote:

Hee hee…Obi Wan Kulongoski.

8 On Aug 4, 06:54 am, Jeff wrote:

The email from Mr. Lang was dated June 7th and I replied on June 9th.

10 On Aug 5, 05:07 pm, Tryan Hartill wrote:

* Tryan’s attempt to spin Josh’s email shows clearly where he stands, and unfortunately at this time, it is not in the position of a responsible citizen-internet journalist.

No spin. I said it “brings doubt”.

* Tryan’s taken a single paraphrase from Sandra Swain’s Daily Astorian article in which he states that he is not the primary generating force behind the committee, and twisted it to insinuate that Josh denied any association with the committee.

Said nothing about SS’s article. I heard Josh say multiple times on the radio the he was not involved and the Charter Amendment idea was not his. The word that describes it is deceitful.

* Josh would be a fool not to offer input when asked, or not to ask those that he knows or has access to for help, or to pass names along to the committee when people ask him how they can help. The FOIA documents support everything he’s said, and it saddens me to think that Tryan has chosen to attempt to spin the emails obtained through FOIA by Mr. Zafiratos.

Again what spin? People can read them and come to their on conclusions.

* Tryan, do you have access to all of the emails that Mr. Zafiratos obtained, or just the ones he wanted you to see? If you have more, will you release them all now, or will you feed us one a day to keep your website visit count high? Is that what this is about? Building your audience?

Don’t have all of them. The whole packet was 33 something dollars for copy fees and I only had a couple bucks on me. About 80 of the 120 pages were Josh fowarding Daily Astorian and Oregonian articles, with probably 20 of those involving comments of support back. One was someone attacking Josh for IIRC not doing enough work while at the office and another was some guy making no sense and Josh relpying “I don’t know what you are talking about.”

* If an increase in webhits is the goal, I think you should reconsider while you still have a chance of acting responsibly. I for one – and I know that I speak for others who I’ve recently spoken to about your site – will not continue to come here for information knowing that you are skewing the news for political purposes.

No one can keep everyone happy and if they try they usually make everyone unhappy.

* It was bad enough when a week or so ago you turned this site into your personal apartment-finding service. Is this what we can expect in the future Tryan, or are you serious about presenting community news in a responsible way? Right now I respectfully submit to you that your judgement and actions on this site are in question.

You are slamming me for that post? You have to be kidding me!

* If you want to know what Josh thinks, check his website at http://www.coastda.com/ – he has a new post up today that addresses this issue – or call him, he’ll tell you himself. And if you think the commissioners went too far, go to the IndependentDA.com website to help us get the petitions signed so that people can vote on this issue.

Too late. Already had a post up 20 minutes before your comment.

* Tryan, you are obviously a bright young man with the potential to develop into a leader in this community, but the lack of good judgement and fairness on issue demonstrates a significant level of immaturity – at best. In your rush to scoop other local media you seem to be making a series of what I hope are just ill-considered mistakes.

Meh.

* I can see how rushing to get the scoop may seem exciting, but failing to fact check in order to get the scoop or the sensational post is flat-out wrong, and your credibility suffers for it.

Meh.

12 On Aug 8, 06:37 am, scott wrote:

Hello, “Guy.”

You can of course take issue with style, content choice or many other aspects of my blogs if you wish, and I’m happy to listen once you use your real name, but I’ll say this: At least I haven’t felt the need to remove the entire contents of any blog out of shame, embarrassment or fear of repercussions, unlike some.

Concerning your query regarding Mr. Forrester, he has not been at any of the meetings of the committee, and Josh says Steve has only been in his house one time, and that was in 1996. So much for that theory.

Concerning Tryan, there is still some question regarding his credibility, and it saddens me to say it.

By the way, does anyone have anything further to add on the subject of “looping” from an earler post? I’m a little confused as to what that is exactly.

14 On Aug 8, 03:25 pm, Davey Jones wrote:

Ah yes the looper.

Commonly known of getting a half rack and heading the Young’s River Loop.

Stopping by heaven and depositing a article of lcothing from the girls you were with.

My kids told me the stories.

From the Locker

16 On Aug 8, 10:04 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:

OK Pecker Head, my name is John Guy Smith, I go by Guy. Now do you want me to turn my head to the left and cough.

So Steve hasn’t been over to Josh’s 1996, and Josh never ever lies does he? “I have nothing to do with this petition…” The FOIA showed he is indeed a liar. And you have a problem with Tryan’s credibility.

18 On Aug 13, 05:48 pm, Luke Rummell wrote:

I am leaving Clatsop County 1. The Lack of family Waged Jobs
2. We talk about reducing drugs and the County Goverment has done zilch to do anything that they talked about at the meth summit more hot air.
3. We do not belive in paying the top law enforcer any more than we can get by with. I belive that all of the County Commissoner with the Exception of one should be voted out of office.
Thank You to the Lone Commissoner that to me is the true example of a person that supports the Da. Luke

20 On Aug 13, 09:21 pm, THartill wrote:

1. The Lack of family Waged Jobs

I think someone needs to clarify what exactly a family wage job is.

$15 an hour? $20? I’ve lived in 4 other cities in Oregon and Washington. And it is really no different anywhere else. You really can be dumb as a rock….If you work your ass off you will make enough money to raise a family. You might not have 5 cars and live like Eric Paulson, but you will live a better life than 99% of the rest of the world.

2. We talk about reducing drugs and the County Goverment has done zilch to do anything that they talked about at the meth summit more hot air.

Simple. Meth is not the problem that everyone makes it out to be. 1 to 1.5% of people in Clatsop County use Meth. Which is lower than the State average. And furthermore, what Government body has ever decreased drug use? We have spent 60-70 billion dollars a year (and that’s just the Feds) to stop drug use and it hasn’t changed since the “War” started in the late 30’s.

As to the Meth summit itself, here is my take on the day they had it.

3. We do not belive in paying the top law enforcer any more than we can get by with.

I’ve said numerous times that the D.A. should get a stipend, but with his duties, responsibilities and paperwork laid out in contract form and he be given a chance to comply with what the Commissioners wanted. (And if he didn’t the stipend should be axed…with no question)

But the State is the main problem here. They should be paying the D.A.’s around the State a competitive wage. This is especially ridiculous these days when they have enough money to increase State jobs by 3.7 percent. Surely they can afford another $600,000 to pay the D.A.’s.

22 On Sep 28, 05:48 am, Bob Dillpickle wrote:

Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin’ around
You should be made
To wear earphones

Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

24 On Sep 28, 01:31 pm, smith wrote:

“One thing I do know is you people are ruthless as you scratch your way to the political top. No ethics. Just knives in the back. I’m referring mostly to the rusty board.”

Guffffaaaawww! But it is soooooo ethical for a seasoned politician to call something a “true grass roots effort” when your the politician who secretly wrote the petition, you tell the public you were trying your hardest to work with the budget committee and the commissioners while secretly writing your colleagues and telling them you have no intention of working with either, then you secretly chose the people to form the committee, secretly chose when to circulate the petition, then secretly write the ballot measure and then secretly fax it to a DA to rubber stamp it so he can fax it to the Clerks office (gotta love FOIA)! Now, that’s a real example of ethics for ya’. Totally comparable to some people writing satire about it on an OPEN forum.

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Lets make the most ethical, honest, above board DA in Oregon the highest set salary DA in Oregon. He sure does deserve to be rewarded for all his hard, behind the back, under the table, back-stabbing, secretive work. Be sure you tell him how you feel about his integrity on November 6th!

All those FOIA requests against the commissioners? Not one showing collusion. Not a one showing they talked as a group w/o Patrick about taking Marquis’ stipend. Not a one showing they were out to get the DA. No evidence that “they” were doing anything but their jobs as commissioners.

You’ve got no evidence like the DA’s got no evidence, just unsubstantiated allegations. Just rumor spreading and gossip mongering. And this is the “great” trial attorney? If this is how he tries his cases, he’s gone waaaaaay downhill. No wonder he doesn’t want to do performance based budgeting. He doesn’t want the commissioners to see how he’s wasting county tax payer’s money and timber revenue.

Is that how you’d like to be tried? On rumor and gossip? Look at the evidence. Read the emails. Look at the DA’s budget in the County budget. Does it look the same as the rest of the performance based budget turned in by the other county departments? The commissioners don’t give a damn about how he “runs his office” they want a grasp on how he fiscally manages his department. That’s their job and he knows it. Shame on the unethical man.

26 On Sep 28, 02:31 pm, smith wrote:

I was actually thinking District Attorney Marquis was stabbing you and me, the voter, in the back. He tells us to trust him, to look at the grass roots effort that spontaneously sprouted up when a group of people found out his stipend had been stripped only to find out he and his friend orchestrated the whole thing.

28 On Sep 28, 05:54 pm, smith wrote:

I was actually thinking District Attorney Marquis was stabbing you and me, the voter, in the back. He tells us to trust him, to look at the grass roots effort that spontaneously sprouted up when a group of people found out his stipend had been stripped only to find out he and his friend orchestrated the whole thing.