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The One Thing I Really Hate About The Daily Astorian

by Tryan Hartill

I sure everyone has an opinion on the Daily Astorian.
If you mention the Daily Astorian to people on the street, the number answer is “It Sucks” and the number 2 answer is “Forrester is an ass”.

If after that you ask them if they have a subscription, most say “Yes” and then rattle off some excuse.

I don’t have much against the local paper. Their reporters have always been very nice to me and even Steve gave me some encouraging comments when I ran for District 2 in person and in his editorial.

Sometimes they lack “truthiness”.

Sometimes they seem like they are way too late in reporting a story and the article written seems like an outline/timeline/overview of information already known.

Sometimes it seems like 10 pages of ads and reposts off the news-wires.

But this is expected in any news source with the size readership that they have. And I really can’t hold any of it against them as long as these drawbacks don’t become too prevalent.

But what really, REALLY pisses me off is when I get called for a subscription.

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I have never had a subscription. I usually buy 2 or 3 a week and on the other days I visit a local business and read the “community” paper while sipping on a Pepsi or alcoholic beverage.

So this means I get calls.

I don’t know how they get my number.

But they find me.

I’ve had a cellphone with 3 different numbers over the last few years and they are the only solicit-type call I’ve received on my cell phone.

But even this doesn’t bother me. What pisses me off is when I ask where the caller is calling from. I am always very polite and let them give me their spiel, but then I ask them where they are calling from. It’s always Florida or Vegas or Texas or BFE….
Never Oregon or Washington, let alone Astoria or 10th and Exchange.

It may seem like a over-reaction on my part, but why can’t they hire a few local people to make the calls? Hell, they could give some extra hours to their employees to make some calls a few nights a week.

It seems they would get more sign-ups if the person making the calls was here. You can tell right off the bat that the caller is not from the Pacific NW. As soon as I hear them I think to myself “great…another robo-call from some huge phone-bank in some other state….just to take advantage of the lower minimum wage”.

I can’t be the only person out there that thinks this same thing, and I can’t guarantee that I would sign-up if the person calling was from here, but it would sure raise my opinion of the paper.

To sum up one message to the Daily Astorian:

Locals pay money for your services and you should use their services whenever possible in return….

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10 comments on this article (post your own)

1 On Feb 14, 11:22 pm, Mom of Three wrote:

Oh trust me, you’re not. I graduated with a BA in Journalism and then worked at a local paper for 8 years, getting up to project editor. You want a list of what bothers me? To name a few:

1. They bury ads. If I were an advertiser I would be hella pissed. You DO NOT bury ads. ALL ads must have at least a corner touching newsprint. For the amount of ads they have, they should go up on page count.
2. There is not nearly enough local photography, in my opinion. I also don’t feel that they do enough features or people stories.
3. Also, they need to be reporting the stories where local government is out of whack, i.e. the port, etc., in much more depth with sidebars breaking the information down for readers. Also, more use of color please, it’s not as expensive as it used to be. Furthermore, their ad people should be pushing more color ads, causing them to use more color for news articles.
4. Continued use of background in articles. Do not assume that we’ve all lived here forever and know who everyone is. I still don’t know what’s going on and I’ve been here almost two years.
5. There needs to be more fearless reporting, period.

2 On Feb 15, 12:18 am, Carrie wrote:

AHMEN, sistah!

and mistah!

ALWAYS with the cell phone solicitations and they are the only ones for us, too. One night we had our kids over, visiting, and literally someone soliciting for DA called each of our phones in a 15 minute time period.

We do not have a subscription and haven’t for about five yearish. When asked why, we said it was because they didn’t provide us five days a week coverage. Now we usually buy Thursday’s paper. It has the most local content. If we want national news we get it online. If we want state news we listen to the television. If we want local news we read the blogs, NCO and talk to our neighbor.

3 On Feb 15, 07:53 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

I usually carry a subscrition of the Daily “A” until Forrester writes some sort of “Hack Job” then I cancel it and then, “That Guy With The Paper” calls and talks me into subscribing again.

I really do miss the “Crossword Puzzles” and “Letters To The Editor” and it also makes good bird cage liner.

Truth is, if I could take Friday’s paper only, that would suit me.

4 On Feb 15, 11:51 am, Pierce wrote:

Can’t you get on the do not call list? When in Astoria, I usually plop 50 cents into the slot to purchase the Daily A soon as it hits the street. That way I can beat the subcribers to the classifieds just in case there is a sweet deal. Thanks to the #%@*~!ing internet- ebay and craigslist those have pretty much become a thing of the past. Here in Sandpoint I buy the morning Spokane Spokesman Review the same way. One thing I have noticed with the Review is many of the downtown paper vendo machines are only stocked with 1 or 2 newspapers. ^*$%# internet again. Obviously readership is way down from just a few years ago when there would be at least half a dozen or so. I think most papers are feeling the pinch. The Sandpoint paper is called the Daily Bee and it’s so lame it makes the Daily A look like the New York Times by comparison. I get to work before the realitors next door and read their copy. It takes less than 5 minuets and I feel cheap and used aftewards but I do it anyway. So don’t be too hard on the Astorian, sure Steves gargantion ego gets in his way and limits him to writing about baseball,oprea, cigars and trips to Seattle or New York are bigger part of his comfort zone than a stroll through town. Sure Rich Fensack is the Ned Flanders of food critics. Sure they go thru reporters like poo thru a goose Putting out a daily rag has got to be a big job though and in these days of declining readership due to the %@#$&*ed internet and the Daily Show or what ever it’s even trickier. It’s easy taking pot shots and many are well deserved but I give them a certain amount of credit as well.

5 On Feb 15, 12:29 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:

I subscribe to both the A and the Capital Press, another Forrester publication. The funny thing was that the Daily A with Steve and Patrick Webb put their weight behind Kulongowski in the Astorian, but backed Saxton in the Capital Press.

I don’t like how Steve sucks up to the DA by even fawning over watching Josh’s favorite movie. Keep it in your pants Steve, Christ there are people reading, you know.

My favorite was a few years back they ran a poem that someone sent in and published it and didn’t realize that the first letter in each line spelled Forrester Sucks when you looked down at only the first letters.

Also, I wonder if they will ever do a story about the local underground press, the bloggers…

6 On Feb 15, 12:51 pm, THartill wrote:

Pierce

Like I said I don’t really mind people calling trying to sell things, just the idea that a local business is using the services of call centers in other states to get around our higher Min Wage.
As far as the internet goes, I bet the Papers that can evolve into more than just a “paper that comes to your doorstep” are doing just fine with the internet. All of them sell ads on their site, so they are still making revenue off readers that don’t have subscriptions.

Guy

Is Forrester the editor of that also? Also interesting that I’ve been getting hits from the Capitol Press lately. They seem to have their own internet provider that the employees use.

As to doing stories about the local bloggers, I highly doubt it. Although there was a short story in the Oregonian about Jack Bog and BlueOregon and Loaded Orygun are mentioned quite frequently.

7 On Feb 15, 03:39 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:

He and Webb were both doing the calling for the new governor. I’ll share the mast head with you when I get the paper on Friday.

8 On Feb 15, 04:14 pm, Mom of Three wrote:

See? That lack of wanting to do stories like a local bloggers one is one of the reasons why people don’t actually read them. There are a number of subcultures in the area that would make fiery and interesting reading, but if they percieve an insult to their paying advertisers or a possible drain from their circulation…well, there you have it.

Our favorite sections of the Daily A were:

Dear Annie (Eldest loves that, but we often have to substitute terms when I read it to her—she doesn’t need to know about some things), the comics and the kids page.

I get my “classifieds” on craigslist.org, download world news and national news on my free podcasts, bleep into cnn.com for the superficial stuff every so often. If they want me to subscribe, they have to be indispensible to me, and that is going to be on the local level.

9 On Feb 15, 05:35 pm, Pierce wrote:

Doing a story about local bloggers would probably sell a bunch of extra issues once, but then the other side effect, a horde of their regular readers scurrying over to their computors to see what Tryan is scooping them on now might leave a bitter taste in the mouth. It would be gutsy if they did. I guess the main thing I like about newspapers is the letters and of course the Jumble (not in the Daily A). What I hate most about newspapers- Cal Thomas.

10 On Feb 18, 06:38 pm, Joe Altieri wrote:

I, for one, am glad that they don’t do stories on local bloggers …
Last Summer, I was ‘let go’ as Photographer for two reasons, 1) That
I ‘ran all over town flashing a Press Pass’ – untrue, and 2) My website contained ‘conspiracy theories’ – also untrue. It’s a page of
2000 links, mostly paranormal, and junk science, etc. With that kind
of analysis, and the recent ‘attack’ on Peter and Susan Trubacco, I
fear they have replaced real journalism with editorial opinion. At
least some of Glenn Taggert’s emails have freely circulated – again,
while I’m not pro-LNG, as Northstar Natural Gas can verify, when the
local newspaper becomes a British Tabloid, I can find better use of
my reading time, sorry Patrick …BTW I have over 1200 webpages, so
I’m linking astoriamovies.com, perhaps the ‘least offensive’ and
mainstream of anything I do … thanks.

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