1 On Jun 1, 08:45 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

Why not but, if you want it here you’re going to have to get it here yourself.

Looks like no bureaucracy or bureaucracy sponsored committee will get it here.

Seems that all the active ED groups just have a “One Trick Pony” – CEDC…The Net Pens – CIDC...”Bio-Oregon” how many years ago?

Of course, if you want a Trolley or bending every possible ordinance to get a “Fake RV Park” here, you’ll have people clammering all over each other for the “Press Time”.

3 On Jun 1, 08:21 pm, Nobody wrote:

If this is about economic development, then we should promote what we already have.

High-tech companies can and should be drawn to the area due to the massive amounts of (dark) fiber-optic cable running through this area. Nedonna Beach has 4 trans-pacific landings, Rockaway beach has a major landing, and Warrenton is a landing for AU-West, providing service to Alaska with a 640Gbs (capacity) line.

These sites help transfer massive amounts of data (voice, internet, etc.) between the Pacific Rim and the United States. The fiber feeds for these sites run right through our communities.

This, coupled with the area being served by both Tier-1 (Qwest) and Tier-2 (Charter Business, not Charter Pipeline) service providers allow access to very high capacity lines at a relatively low cost. For example, a true 10 megabit fiber internet connection can be had for around $1000 a month.

What’s more, a third Tier-1 provider (MCI/Verizon) is entering the area.

This is virtually unknown by the average resident, but it is starting to be noticed by businesses. The next problem will be the lack of skilled workers.

Aside from that, the problem with putting WiFi in much of Clatsop has to do with the terrain, buildings, and trees. So, while it would be a wonderful thing to have, the reality is that the investment required to provide stable, reliable, and widespread service is currently too expensive (it would require lots of transmitters/repeaters to get around hills, trees and large buildings) for any type of return, especially considering the number of people that it would serve. Look at you cellular service just in Astoria- you may or may not have a signal from one block to the next.

_From The Register
Bouyed more by evangelism – and lobbying dollars – rather than reality, Wi-Fi projects are experiencing the kind of issues all too familiar to experienced network engineers.
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These are familiar problems to network engineers responsible for the build out of CDMA and GSM networks throughout the 1990s. But Wi-Fi’s high frequency band, which works poorly indoors, its lack of allocated spectrum and low range, mean the technology has far more problems than established cellular radio interfaces. As a consequence, leaves, fog, and rain can severely hamper network performance.

5 On Jun 1, 10:08 pm, Jon wrote:

The one thing that may help a lot of us that aren’t on board with this CCC bull being relocated at the John Warren Feild might be free WiFi. Pfftht, so a few dead spots, which in the next few years will eventually get it. With the towers up for the cells, the radio towers up, put a few repeaters up throughout the area, up at Astor Column, logging roads, Heaven, the Astor building. And you know what, it isn’t those people in Astoria that are in the dead spots anyhow that the college promoters should worry about. Astoria’s already getting all the benies from having the college. The rest of us, who don’t live in the terrain challenged area, who live in the flat plains and just need a boost maybe coming off of the coast guard station or maybe a repeater at Camp Rilea. If CCC wants countywide support of its college site give us all something. Give us free WiFi.

7 On Jun 2, 08:18 am, Patrick McGee wrote:

Well, with Wi-Fi don’t you just have to just get close to “Jones” the signal?

9 On Jun 2, 11:21 pm, Tryan Hartill wrote:

They want to put an antenna on my building which will reach the east end basin as well. I’m not sure if they plan on expanding into Astoria though.

This sounds pretty big. Going from your building to EEMB has got to be close to 3 miles. I guess the question would be why can’t they serve downtown and half the hill as well?....with only 1 antenna!